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#1 Oct. 13, 2005 19:18:29

João P.
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J2SE 1.5 JDK License


I'm currently working on a Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux LiveCD Distribution to be
used by the students at my university. The goal of this distro is to provide
students with a development environment featuring everything they might need to
use for all of their subjects throughout the entire semester. This would
obviously require me to bundle Sun's JDK along with the distro.

I have read the license agreement for the JDK 1.5 and I noticed the following
excerpt:

A. Software Internal Use and Development License Grant.
Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and
restrictions and exceptions set forth in the Software
"README" file, including, but not limited to the Java
Technology Restrictions of these Supplemental Terms, Sun
grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited
license without fees to reproduce internally and use
internally the Software complete and unmodified for the
purpose of designing, developing, and testing your
Programs.

If I understand this correctly, it should possible for me to bundle the JDK
along with the distro for as long as it's only distributed inside my
university. Am I correct? Also, what would "unmodified" mean in this context?
Is it possible for me to unpack and install the JDK on the system (without
modifying any of the files) or am I forced to distribute the original
self-extracting .bin file and require students to unpack and install it each
time they boot from the LiveCD?

The full Java JS2E JDK license can be found here:http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jdk-1_5_0_05-license.txtThanks in advance,
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#2 Oct. 13, 2005 19:27:19

Carlos C.
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João Pinheiro wrote:
| I'm currently working on a Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux LiveCD
Distribution to be used by the students at my university. The goal of
this distro is to provide students with a development environment
featuring everything they might need to use for all of their subjects
throughout the entire semester. This would obviously require me to
bundle Sun's JDK along with the distro.
|
| I have read the license agreement for the JDK 1.5 and I noticed the
following excerpt:
|
| A. Software Internal Use and Development License Grant.
| Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and
| restrictions and exceptions set forth in the Software
| "README" file, including, but not limited to the Java
| Technology Restrictions of these Supplemental Terms, Sun
| grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited
| license without fees to reproduce internally and use
| internally the Software complete and unmodified for the
| purpose of designing, developing, and testing your
| Programs.
|
| If I understand this correctly, it should possible for me to bundle
the JDK along with the distro for as long as it's only distributed
inside my university. Am I correct? Also, what would "unmodified" mean
in this context? Is it possible for me to unpack and install the JDK on
the system (without modifying any of the files) or am I forced to
distribute the original self-extracting .bin file and require students
to unpack and install it each time they boot from the LiveCD?
|
| The full Java JS2E JDK license can be found here:http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jdk-1_5_0_05-license.txt|
| Thanks in advance,
| João Pinheiro
|
|
|
|

My understanding is that, once you don't modify the JVM, it's ok to
distribute it.

Severeal distros are distributing it also, and I don't know of any
complains.

Greetings,

Carlos
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#3 Oct. 13, 2005 20:04:29

Michael K.
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J2SE 1.5 JDK License


> My understanding is that, once you don't modify the JVM, it's ok to
> distribute it.

You can't modify it as you don't get the whole source code.

> Severeal distros are distributing it also, and I don't know of any
> complains.

They have signed distribution contracts with SUN. A thing Debian will
never do.


Cheers,
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#4 Oct. 25, 2005 12:50:31

Arnaud V.
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João Pinheiro wrote:

> I have read the license agreement for the JDK 1.5
> and I noticed the following excerpt:
>
> A. Software Internal Use and Development License Grant.
> Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and
> restrictions and exceptions set forth in the Software
> "README" file, including, but not limited to the Java
> Technology Restrictions of these Supplemental Terms, Sun
> grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited
> license without fees to reproduce internally and use
> internally the Software complete and unmodified for the
> purpose of designing, developing, and testing your
> Programs.
>
> If I understand this correctly, it should possible
> for me to bundle the JDK along with the distro for
> as long as it's only distributed inside my university.
> Am I correct?

As I understand it, your students should keep the CD's inside the
University ;-)

Maybe you should ask at Sun, I'd like to know their point of view. I
think they try to open things, and it's particularly true with education.

Thanks to let us know,

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