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#1 June 21, 2010 12:31:53

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How much would you charge for this? £5k? £15k? £50k?


... I've just noticed the title and hope this doesn't look too much
like spam!!

On Jun 21, 11:12 am, ALJ <astley.lejas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just starting out with Django so using an hourly rate isn't really
> applicable because I'm going to be much slower that a 'real'
> developer. So far I've spent about 6 months part time.
>
> What kind of ballpark amounts would people suggest this is worth?
>
> I'm not going to tell you how much they think it was ... well maybe
> I'll tell you later. I'm trying to help them out so it's considerably
> cheaper than I think it should be.
>
> What is it?
> The application is helps the sales staff organize product
> demonstrations around the country. They can book demonstrators to do
> an event. The demonstrators do the events and then enter the details
> of how it went. The system provides invoice generation, event tracking
> and custom reporting.
>
> Features
> - Dynamic questionnaire and report form generation into pdf.
> - Dynamic invoice generation into pdf.
> - Work-flow with page locking, rollback and automatic email generation
> on status change.
> - Daily (and horribly complex) automatic summary excel reports
> - Sales and questionnaire summary reports
>
> - Designing and building the site
> -- Models (about 32)
> -- Setting up the admin interface
> -- 12 key views plus goodness knows how many auxiliary views.
> -- Look and feel
>
> Other activities
> - Weekly automatic importing of data from another accounting database
> - Importing of existing event data.
> - Importing of product prices and rates, existing staff details,
> demonstrator details,
> - Finding and setting up a VPS host
> - Installing and configuring the site
> - Support for a year (occasional changes, bug fixes and helping them
> settle in)
> - Training materials
>
> ... and this doesn't even take into account the changes they made
> halfway though. I should have been more formal with the spec but I
> know them and didn't think it would be necessary. Once bitten ....
>
> Appreciate this is a bit finger in the air, but like I said ...
> ballparking.
>
> ALJ

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#2 June 21, 2010 15:12:11

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How much would you charge for this? £5k? £15k? £50k?


It sounds like your project is pretty fully featured and if you claim
to be "inexperienced" in Django development this much work is pretty
impressive on a part-time basis over 6 months!

Currently the Django project I am working on has taken over 2.5 years
(and is ongoing). Although we don't just do Django, it's what we do
most of the time. Our application has 213 models with 78742 lines of
python code. I would estimate (although this is a bit of a guess) that
the developer cost for this has been approximately £350k.

You might be able to scale that to your workload.

Hope that helps, Euan

On Jun 21, 10:12 am, ALJ <astley.lejas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just starting out with Django so using an hourly rate isn't really
> applicable because I'm going to be much slower that a 'real'
> developer. So far I've spent about 6 months part time.
>
> What kind of ballpark amounts would people suggest this is worth?
>
> I'm not going to tell you how much they think it was ... well maybe
> I'll tell you later. I'm trying to help them out so it's considerably
> cheaper than I think it should be.
>
> What is it?
> The application is helps the sales staff organize product
> demonstrations around the country. They can book demonstrators to do
> an event. The demonstrators do the events and then enter the details
> of how it went. The system provides invoice generation, event tracking
> and custom reporting.
>
> Features
> - Dynamic questionnaire and report form generation into pdf.
> - Dynamic invoice generation into pdf.
> - Work-flow with page locking, rollback and automatic email generation
> on status change.
> - Daily (and horribly complex) automatic summary excel reports
> - Sales and questionnaire summary reports
>
> - Designing and building the site
> -- Models (about 32)
> -- Setting up the admin interface
> -- 12 key views plus goodness knows how many auxiliary views.
> -- Look and feel
>
> Other activities
> - Weekly automatic importing of data from another accounting database
> - Importing of existing event data.
> - Importing of product prices and rates, existing staff details,
> demonstrator details,
> - Finding and setting up a VPS host
> - Installing and configuring the site
> - Support for a year (occasional changes, bug fixes and helping them
> settle in)
> - Training materials
>
> ... and this doesn't even take into account the changes they made
> halfway though. I should have been more formal with the spec but I
> know them and didn't think it would be necessary. Once bitten ....
>
> Appreciate this is a bit finger in the air, but like I said ...
> ballparking.
>
> ALJ

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#3 June 21, 2010 16:49:14

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How much would you charge for this? £5k? £15k? £50k?


Hi Euan,

Cheers for that. It's my first Django project and I think in hindsight
I should have started on something a little easier. Nevermind. It's
been a good learning experience.

Before they told me the spec, they said they thought it would cost
about £3k!

Cheers

ALJ

On Jun 21, 4:12 pm, "euan.godd...@googlemail.com"
<euan.godd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It sounds like your project is pretty fully featured and if you claim
> to be "inexperienced" in Django development this much work is pretty
> impressive on a part-time basis over 6 months!
>
> Currently the Django project I am working on has taken over 2.5 years
> (and is ongoing). Although we don't just do Django, it's what we do
> most of the time. Our application has 213 models with 78742 lines of
> python code. I would estimate (although this is a bit of a guess) that
> the developer cost for this has been approximately £350k.
>
> You might be able to scale that to your workload.
>
> Hope that helps, Euan
>
> On Jun 21, 10:12 am, ALJ <astley.lejas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm just starting out with Django so using an hourly rate isn't really
> > applicable because I'm going to be much slower that a 'real'
> > developer. So far I've spent about 6 months part time.
>
> > What kind of ballpark amounts would people suggest this is worth?
>
> > I'm not going to tell you how much they think it was ... well maybe
> > I'll tell you later. I'm trying to help them out so it's considerably
> > cheaper than I think it should be.
>
> > What is it?
> > The application is helps the sales staff organize product
> > demonstrations around the country. They can book demonstrators to do
> > an event. The demonstrators do the events and then enter the details
> > of how it went. The system provides invoice generation, event tracking
> > and custom reporting.
>
> > Features
> > - Dynamic questionnaire and report form generation into pdf.
> > - Dynamic invoice generation into pdf.
> > - Work-flow with page locking, rollback and automatic email generation
> > on status change.
> > - Daily (and horribly complex) automatic summary excel reports
> > - Sales and questionnaire summary reports
>
> > - Designing and building the site
> > -- Models (about 32)
> > -- Setting up the admin interface
> > -- 12 key views plus goodness knows how many auxiliary views.
> > -- Look and feel
>
> > Other activities
> > - Weekly automatic importing of data from another accounting database
> > - Importing of existing event data.
> > - Importing of product prices and rates, existing staff details,
> > demonstrator details,
> > - Finding and setting up a VPS host
> > - Installing and configuring the site
> > - Support for a year (occasional changes, bug fixes and helping them
> > settle in)
> > - Training materials
>
> > ... and this doesn't even take into account the changes they made
> > halfway though. I should have been more formal with the spec but I
> > know them and didn't think it would be necessary. Once bitten ....
>
> > Appreciate this is a bit finger in the air, but like I said ...
> > ballparking.
>
> > ALJ

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