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#1 Dec. 2, 2010 14:54:13

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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com> wrote:
> maybe I just don't get the point.

i guess the point is that nobody likes IIS, so there's no development
specific for that platform

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#2 Dec. 2, 2010 15:05:43

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I thank you all so much for the really valuable pieces of advice. All
in all, the underscore seems to be as follows: not to use Python/Django
+IIS+Windows because of lack of support and tools immaturity ("hack"
approach). One'd better deploy on Win/Unix + Apache, am I right?

On Dec 2, 5:39 pm, Javier Guerra Giraldez <jav...@guerrag.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > maybe I just don't get the point.
>
> i guess the point is that nobody likes IIS, so there's no development
> specific for that platform
>
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#3 Dec. 2, 2010 15:19:45

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Correct :)

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com>wrote:

> > I thank you all so much for the really valuable pieces of advice. All
> > in all, the underscore seems to be as follows: not to use Python/Django
> > +IIS+Windows because of lack of support and tools immaturity ("hack"
> > approach). One'd better deploy on Win/Unix + Apache, am I right?
>
> On Dec 2, 5:39 pm, Javier Guerra Giraldez <jav...@guerrag.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > maybe I just don't get the point.
> >
> > i guess the point is that nobody likes IIS, so there's no development
> > specific for that platform
> >
> > --
> > Javier
> >
> > --
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#4 Dec. 2, 2010 15:25:13

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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com> wrote:
> not to use Python/Django
> +IIS+Windows because of lack of support and tools immaturity ("hack"
> approach).

not at all. there are lots of goods reasons to go the *nix route (be
it Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc). but Django does work anywhere Python
does.

FastCGI is _not_ a 'hack'. It's a standard

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#5 Dec. 2, 2010 15:29:27

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True, Javier. But the issue isn't whether or not Django + Python can run
smooth on Windows - it is a web server problem? Specifically IIS?

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Javier Guerra Giraldez
<jav...@guerrag.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > not to use Python/Django
> > +IIS+Windows because of lack of support and tools immaturity ("hack"
> > approach).
>
> not at all. there are lots of goods reasons to go the *nix route (be
> it Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc). but Django does work anywhere Python
> does.
>
> FastCGI is _not_ a 'hack'. It's a standard
>
> --
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#6 Dec. 2, 2010 15:32:51

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Javier,

Under "hack approach" I meant PyISAPIe + IIS (wich is weird by itself,
but still).

Anthony

On Dec 2, 6:25 pm, Javier Guerra Giraldez <jav...@guerrag.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > not to use Python/Django
> > +IIS+Windows because of lack of support and tools immaturity ("hack"
> > approach).
>
> not at all.   there are lots of goods reasons to go the *nix route (be
> it Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc).  but Django does work anywhere Python
> does.
>
> FastCGI is _not_ a 'hack'.  It's a standard
>
> --
> Javier

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#7 Dec. 2, 2010 15:33:54

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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube
<zebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it is a web server problem? Specifically IIS?

if IIS can do FastCGI (and it should!) you can do django with flup

if IIS can proxy HTTP (and it would be weird if it doesnt), you can do
Django with gunicorn/tornado

or, you can ditch IIS and use gunicorn on its own. it's a great
webserver, and i guess it won't raise as many zealot alarms on
win-only admins as asking to install Apache

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#8 Dec. 2, 2010 15:34:18

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Lloyd,

Yes, correct. It is purely a webserver (IIS) issue.

Anthony

On Dec 2, 6:29 pm, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube <zebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> True, Javier. But the issue isn't whether or not Django + Python can run
> smooth on Windows - it is a web server problem? Specifically IIS?
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Javier Guerra Giraldez
> <jav...@guerrag.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > not to use Python/Django
> > > +IIS+Windows because of lack of support and tools immaturity ("hack"
> > > approach).
>
> > not at all.   there are lots of goods reasons to go the *nix route (be
> > it Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc).  but Django does work anywhere Python
> > does.
>
> > FastCGI is _not_ a 'hack'.  It's a standard
>
> > --
> > Javier
>
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#9 Dec. 2, 2010 15:45:30

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Lloyd,

Yes, correct. To us it is purely a webserver (IIS) issue.

Anthony

On Dec 2, 6:29 pm, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube <zebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> True, Javier. But the issue isn't whether or not Django + Python can run
> smooth on Windows - it is a web server problem? Specifically IIS?
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Javier Guerra Giraldez
> <jav...@guerrag.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:05 AM, ashdesigner <antony.shash...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > not to use Python/Django
> > > +IIS+Windows because of lack of support and tools immaturity ("hack"
> > > approach).
>
> > not at all.   there are lots of goods reasons to go the *nix route (be
> > it Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc).  but Django does work anywhere Python
> > does.
>
> > FastCGI is _not_ a 'hack'.  It's a standard
>
> > --
> > Javier
>
> > --
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#10 Dec. 2, 2010 15:57:07

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Javier,

As a beginner, I don't have any own experience to judge, but browsing
through techy blogs I often saw FastCGI mentioned as someway 'slow',
'deprecated', 'IIS7-incompatible', etc. Maybe I am wrong, but using
PyISAPIe was described as 'much much faster'. You see, performance
matters significantly to us.

Anthony

On Dec 2, 6:33 pm, Javier Guerra Giraldez <jav...@guerrag.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube
>
> <zebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > it is a web server problem? Specifically IIS?
>
> if IIS can do FastCGI (and it should!) you can do django with flup
>
> if IIS can proxy HTTP (and it would be weird if it doesnt), you can do
> Django with gunicorn/tornado
>
> or, you can ditch IIS and use gunicorn on its own.  it's a great
> webserver, and i guess it won't raise as many zealot alarms on
> win-only admins as asking to install Apache
>
> --
> Javier

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